SEE YOU IN COURT - 2025

What impact has See you in Court had on PAVA? You won—how do you look back on that experience?

Femke: “The prize package was perfect for us. The 50 hours of legal advice from Banning Advocaten is incredibly valuable. We are meticulous when it comes to navigating this sensitive healthcare sector. Now, we can move forward with certainty—we don’t have to second-guess ourselves—and we can reach out to ensure everything is in order. What I love most about having this many hours is that it allows us to build a relationship with our contact person. They understand exactly what we need, and it feels like a long-term collaboration.

We’re also making great use of Tilaa’s services; they have a wealth of expertise. Since they saw us at the event and had those initial conversations with us, the Tilaa team is very engaged. That, too, feels like a truly supportive partnership. 

The BIM flexible workspace is in a fantastic location—we’re almost looking for a reason to use it full-time! Unfortunately, that’s not possible at the moment because we are based in Amsterdam. However, if we establish connections with nursing homes in that region, we would love to work from there.

Everyone wants to help you think through challenges, especially when it comes to building a startup. The entire See you in Court network contributes to that. Beyond the professional benefits, it was just a really fun day. The fact that everything happens in a courtroom setting, and that you prepare for the event with the other candidates in advance, created a sense of companionship. I look back on it with extremely positive feelings.”

How is PAVA doing now?

Femke: “When we participated in See you in Court 2024, two of us were still finishing our studies, and two were working part-time. Since August, we have all been working full-time on PAVA. See you in Court was such a major turning point for us. I’m not exaggerating when I say that this competition has made a huge difference for us. The trust we’ve gained, along with the legal and technical advice we’ve received, has been invaluable. Back then, we knew what we wanted to do and how we wanted to go about it, but having the support of professionals made all the difference.

Since September, we’ve conducted our first pilot for data collection. Everything we do is AI-driven, so we need a large amount of data before we can fully develop our solution. In early December, we launched a major pilot for product validation in a nursing home in North Holland. There, we were able to collect data from 20 rooms to validate the accuracy of our product. We already know the technology works—WiFi sensing is a proven concept—but validation is crucial. By the end of 2024 and early 2025, we hope to complete our pilots and validations so that we can roll out our solution more broadly throughout the rest of 2025.

We are also starting our first conversations with home care organizations. How do their systems work, and what value can we add there? That’s what we’re currently experimenting with—where can we provide the most support and make the greatest impact, both socially and in terms of relieving pressure on the healthcare system? Where can we be most effective, and what direction should we take?”

You have fantastic future plans and ambitions. Where do you see PAVA in a year?

Femke: “Our biggest goal is to improve the quality of care by reducing the workload of healthcare professionals. We would be overjoyed if our insights could help eliminate unnecessary routine check-ins. This means patients and clients won’t be disturbed as often, allowing them to sleep better and feel better during the day. At the same time, caregivers will be able to do their rounds with more peace of mind and confidence because they will have real-time information about what’s happening.

We know we still have a long way to go before our product is fully operational, so for now, we’re focusing on successful pilots—step by step. Technically, we need to be highly accurate. We want to start small, provide reliable insights, and then scale up from there. So, what’s our dream? To help relieve some of the burden on the healthcare system.”

What advice would you give to future participants of See you in Court?

Femke: “For us, See you in Court was a true launchpad, thanks to winning the prize package. It’s such a fun experience. You get to practice pitching and participate in the ‘Higher Appeal’ round, which is really exciting. Beyond the prize package, the people involved are incredibly supportive. After this competition, I would never hesitate to reach out to any of the involved parties. 

The environment was so warm and welcoming that I truly feel like I can turn to anyone for advice. Even if you don’t win, I’m certain that all the participating organizations would still be willing to provide guidance and support. It feels like we now have a whole rooting team behind us, which is amazing.”